I'm selling this used Zildjian 16" Medium Thin crash cymbal from the mid 2000s. This sounds pretty much exactly what you picture when you think of a Zil 16" medium thin. Not bad by any means. Would also probably make a killer bottom hi hat. I've heard it on a few recordings, and I liked it better than what I hear in person. But I could probably say that about most cymbals. It's dirty (but I am morally against cleaning cymbals), so I'll leave that up to you. Otherwise, it's in excellent condition, with no major issues. The link provided is cell phone audio, so hopefully a fair representation of actual sound. Please let me know if you have any questions.